On cultivating strategic leadership and empowering self-driven learning

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Episode summary

In this episode, the host sits down with Mattias Dahl Sandrén, a Learning and Development Partner at SEB, with a background in psychology and HR consulting. They dive into Mattias' strategic approach to fostering leadership and continuous learning in a large organization like SEB. Mattias shares his insights on navigating complex organizational challenges, particularly in leadership development, where he blends his empathetic and consultative style with the demands of operational work. The discussion also explores the significance of building psychological safety within leadership teams and the shift towards self-driven learning in modern workplaces.

Episode transcript

Themes discussed:
  1. Leadership Development: Mattias explains his work in training SCB's leadership, emphasizing the importance of psychological safety, empathy, and fostering a collaborative leadership environment.
  2. Strategic Learning and Self-Responsibility: The shift from structured learning programs to self-driven competence development is explored, with a focus on how leaders and employees can take ownership of their growth.
  3. Complexity in Large Organizations: Mattias details the challenges of driving change in large, regulated institutions, including how to manage diverse leadership teams with varying perspectives and responsibilities.
  4. Psychological Safety in Teams: Mattias highlights the importance of creating an environment where team members feel safe to be vulnerable and open about challenges, which enhances collective problem-solving.
Key Takeaways:
  • Psychological safety is a critical foundation for effective leadership development and organizational success.
  • Leadership development is shifting from formal programs to a more self-driven and integrated approach, where leaders are expected to take greater responsibility for their growth.
  • Facilitating open, honest communication and understanding diverse perspectives within leadership teams is key to overcoming operational and strategic challenges.
  • Continuous learning requires balancing short-term operational pressures with long-term strategic development needs.
Shownotes:
  • [00:00] - Introduction: Host Kristoffer introduces Mattias Dahl sandrén, setting the stage for the episode and discussing his role as Learning and Development Partner at SEB.
  • [00:57] - Mattias' Work at SEB: Mattias explains how he approaches his work as an L&D Partner, focusing on the challenges of working strategically across different groups and driving change within a large organization.
  • [01:57] - Psychology Background: Mattias shares his background as a psychologist and consultant, discussing how his ability to encourage open conversations helps solve complex problems.
  • [03:01] - Strategic Leadership Development: Mattias talks about his role in developing leadership skills at SEB, balancing empathy with driving results in a corporate setting.
  • [05:21] - Working with Leadership Teams: Mattias describes his work with around 30 leadership groups within SEB, supporting them in identifying strategic development areas.
  • [07:24] - Leadership Training Shift: The discussion moves to the evolution from traditional training programs to a more self-driven model, where leaders take ownership of their learning journey.
  • [09:30] - Challenges in Prioritizing Learning: Mattias highlights the difficulty of encouraging leaders to prioritize long-term competence development amid daily operational pressures.
  • [11:38] - Learning Philosophy: SEB’s shift to a learning culture rooted in Self-Determination Theory, promoting autonomy, mastery, and connectedness in leadership and employee development.
  • [15:00] - Balancing Immediate Needs with Future Growth: The episode covers the challenge of aligning short-term operational needs with the necessity of investing in long-term skill development.
  • [16:46] - Providing Learning Opportunities: Mattias explains SEB’s strategy of offering a wide range of learning resources and the importance of accessible learning platforms.
  • [21:11] - Developing Leadership Teams: Mattias discusses the importance of leadership group development, focusing on building psychological safety, listening, and fostering open communication.
  • [24:53] - Handling Complex Problems: The episode dives into how Mattias approaches solving complex challenges within leadership teams, using group discussions and strategic alignment.
  • [29:42] - Gathering Insights and Feedback: Mattias shares his approach to collecting feedback and ensuring leadership groups are aligned in addressing their most pressing strategic issues.
  • [37:07] - Ground Rules and Decision-Making: The importance of establishing group ground rules and clearly defining decision-making processes within leadership teams.
  • [44:00] - After Action Reviews: Mattias introduces the concept of After Action Reviews, a tool for continuous improvement in leadership teams, encouraging reflection on what worked and what didn’t.
  • [49:48] - Concluding Thoughts: Mattias reflects on the future of leadership development at SEB, the importance of adaptability, and the challenges of fostering continuous learning in fast-paced environment.